[A lot of the railing had come due to House having no say in the matter. He doesn't like his life--what's best for him--being decided for him by other people. It puts him right back in the hospital room, waking up to a massive scar on his thigh and a cane and pills for the rest of his life. Stacy apologizing over and over but admitting that she'd do it again in a heartbeat for him. To protect him.
Anyway.]
It's snake oil. Don't buy it. You might not be able to get it off again.
[ Will seemed to consider this for a moment, then gave House one of his best puppy dog eyed looks. ]
Pretty please with a cherry on top?
[ He didn't genuinely expect House to kill him. House would bite, like a cornered rat, he'd attack but the goal was escape not to kill.
In fact he didn't think House had it in him to kill. Even a mercy kill was questionable, not because House would want a person to suffer (beyond reason) but rather because the diagnostician wouldn't accept that there was a puzzle he couldn't solve. ]
Doesn't he bite everyone he murders? One way or another. [He's not answering that question about the threesome, Will. Mainly because Hannibal didn't respond to House's comment about said threesome idea.]
It depends. Hannibal kills and consumes for a wide variety of reasons. [ Which Will was a little leery about getting into those types of details as some of them were private to Hannibal. ]
And there is a difference between the victims of the Ripper and Hannibal's tributes. [ For lack of a better word.
Will set his tablet aside, and adopted his usual pose of knees bent, arms resting across them. ]
The Ripper chooses his victims from a pool of individuals he finds rude. People who are, in his eyes, no better than pigs due to their behavior and he treats them accordingly. Sometimes it will take him months, even years to circle back on someone he marked at the time of their transgression. It was part of what made him so difficult to investigate.
Anyway those victims, Hannibal would throw these elaborate dinner parties that were known for attracting the top of Maryland, D.C. and Virginia high society. People tripped over themselves for an invitation. Lavish affairs, and the menu was created and prepared by Hannibal.
[ He won't say it, but rather waits to let House connect the dots. ]
[It's not a very far reach, and House can't help rolling his eyes and huffing at the theater in it.]
Anyone ever tell him there are better ways to show off?
[He should probably be more horrified, but he knows Hannibal is a cannibal and a complete asshole. There's a part of the doctor that can see the visceral satisfaction and amusement in conning a bunch of rubes into doing something they'd profess to never do. And have them not only champing at the bit to do it, but raving afterward. It is masterful manipulation, and House would tip his hat to anyone who could pull something like that off.]
So, basically if he disappears and comes back with extra meat, make sure I check that it's not human before eating it?
What about the 'tributes'? I'm assuming he was planning on you for one of those.
[House just kind of assumes he'll eventually be in the former category. Not just the biting Will, but he's been rude to Hannibal before this.]
Don't encourage him. He'll take it as a personal goal.
[ At the second question and the sentence after it, Will's lips twitched upwards. ]
'Was'? [ He shook his head. ] He already tried once, though in that instance it was a combination of consuming me and torturing Jack at the same time. [ Will pointed to the scar at his forehead. ]
He has an 'inconvenient' compassion for me. [ Will continued. ] And he is in love with me, but that doesn't mean he won't reach the point where his desire to consume me will overwhelm his desire to have me by his side.
I suspect it's hard to see, but in his eyes there would be a pentultimate beauty in such an act. It would be the pinnacle of intimacy for him.
[ Glancing at House, Will smiled an expression that was both serene but also melancholy. ]
Just because the tiger comes to your hand, chuffs softly at you, rubs his head against you in affection and will lay in your lap with love in his eyes, doesn't mean he stops being a tiger. Only an arrogant fool would believe that those predatory instincts won't always lay just beneath the surface and it is a question of when, not if, they will be triggered.
The difference with a tiger is you're not usually letting it screw you on the regular.
[Just saying, Will.]
Unless you've got something you wanna tell me about your kinks, Graham Cracker.
[House runs a hand through his hair--it's really getting too long--and tries to look at it from Hannibal's perspective. It's not too hard once he lets himself consider it.]
You'd become a part of him when he eats you. And he'll have something from you that no one else would. No one else ever will have. I mean, except here. Where you might come back to life. Would that cheapen it?
That is not one of my kinks. [ Will confirmed. ] I have a wide range I find myself wanting to explore, but I'll let you tell me what it was like to screw someone with a tail?
[ He was fishing, just a bit with that last question. There had been some weird exchanges, particularly the last time they had been in the same location with Rhys, but Will was curious about whether or not there was fire in the smoke. Really, neither of them has a position to toss around stones. Truth was, a threesome is probably one of the tamer ideas in their sex lives.
But this was part of why Will liked House's company. The doctor didn't get disgusted, or judgey (at least on the outside) about the horrors in Will's mind and his reality. He didn't have the same sort of door Will and Hannibal possessed but House appeared capable of observing through the windows and now being scared away.
Will nodded at the diagnosis and also suspected that it would clue House in on why Hannibal had reacted negatively to the teeth, yet open minded on the subject of the threesome. ]
I don't know. [ Will answered the question honestly. ] I don't think he knows. Hannibal is incredibly adaptable, it's part of why he's such a successful survivor. He might be taken aback at first, feel frustration at outside forces imposing change on his design.
But I suspect he'd be quick to find value in the way life and death are on hold here.
[The first question has House blinking a few times, the expression of a man wholly caught off-guard. He looks down and away and the relative darkness in the place is a blessing because it hides the blush that tinges his cheeks while he yanks his mask back up. Well, if that was even still a question for Will, that little aside just confirmed it. House gives himself a mental kick for the lapse and lets that line of the conversation drop. He doesn't know what to say about it, and he sure as hell doesn't want to talk about it with a guy he regularly plays gay chicken with and has had one too many... peculiar thoughts about while being murdered by him.
Anyway.]
Kinda jacks with the keeping it under the radar model unless he's real good at murdering without people actually seeing him do it. Or it's you or me.
[Because he knows neither of them are going to rat the guy out.]
[ That response was interesting and Will weighs continuing to poke around and adding it to his small file folder of curious events. He decided to add it to the file folder for the time being. After all, he was trying to get out of the dog house; not bracade himself in it. ]
He's very good at pulling off what would seem impossible, don't ever believe there is something he can't do, just because it doesn't seem feasible.
[ Will stretched his legs out, purposefully adopting a less defensive posture as he continued. ]
There is a woman, a friend of mine who was also a psychiatrist and a contemporary of Hannibal's, was his student at one time. Her name is Alana Bloom and I had something of a small flame for her.
She turned me down, was worried that I was too broken.
Anyway, when I was in Baltimore Hospital for the Criminally Insane and I had sent someone to kill Hannibal, Hannibal retaliated by seducing Alana. He also seduced her on the same night that he went and grabbed a man named Abel Gideon, a serial killer who had claimed to be the Ripper; which annoyed Hannibal.
During this period, Jack had been investigating some of my asertations that Hannibal was the Ripper, so Hannibal was under some scrutiny. By sleeping with Alana, he took a swipe at me, and simultaneously created an alibi for himself. Because she slept through his leaving after they had sex, woke up to him back in bed. Her account was that he had been with her the entire night.
[ Will lifted his hands and made a motion of multiple levels. ]
[He knows that piece of information is being stored away for later, but House is just going to be grateful in this moment that Will is letting the line play out there. In the ideal world, he'll just forget about it entirely if they go long enough without discussing it.
The doctor's brows jump up, impressed. He won't say it to Hannibal, but he can appreciate the man's skill privately.]
He drug her to keep her under?
[Okay. That's probably not what a normal person should ask, but it's what he's curious about. Just how sneaky is Hannibal? And did he have to cheat a little?]
She did mention that they shared a "lovely glass of a very expensive merlot, he was considering buying a case of and wished her opinion, during their post coital relaxation."
[ Will remembered reading that line in Alana's alibi for Hannibal and smacking himself in the face with the file. In other words, incredibly sneaky.
Will would argue that Hannibal was that good in bed to knock a partner out for the count, but the psychiatrist wasn't one to let ego get in the way of thorough planning. ]
cw: POST COITAL drug reference; codependent relationship issues
You picked one of the smart ones, at least. I'll give you that.
[Which... probably isn't actually good when it comes to serial killers, but whatever. House isn't Will's mom. The guy can make whatever inadvisable romantic choices he wants. And unlike most people, at least Will has a very intimate and in-depth knowledge of this lover's most significant flaws.
It's incredibly unhealthy, but House knows most people would characterize his relationship with Wilson like that from the other side. Even just friendship. There's really no reason Wilson should still be his friend without massive codependency issues.]
Are you gonna ask his opinion about the Beacon, too?
[ His relationship with Hannibal wasn't what anyone would consider healthy. Yet at the same time there was a purity in it's darkness, a raw honesty in the danger that came from the fact that they both saw the other with open eyes. Saw each other, completely, and stayed regardless.
Conjoined, as completely codependent as one could get. Which was part of why Will could see hints of the codependency between House and Wilson, and yet see where Wilson got as much from it as House.
Though from the outside it would always look as if House were sole beneficiary. ]
I'm going to ask him about his intentions. He can be just as curious as you are about poking something to see what it does, but I don't think he's going to be too fond of the idea of making himself more traceable.
On the bright side, the Admin does hell all about murders unless someone complains about it. And then she turns on your Beacon. I got Solomon's turned on for robbing me, too. Or helping Melborn cut off part of my ear. I pitched both in my network post just to cover the bases.
[ Reaching up, Will removed his glasses and rubbed at his eyes. ]
The sucker fish monster was merely acting to its nature. I expect it was traumatic, but this entire place is traumatic in one way or another and it is equally and unconditionally traumatic to each and every one of us.
[ Lowering his hand, he replaced his glasses. They fell down to the tip of his nose. ]
The attack on your ear by another member of our merry band carries a different psychological weight. [ He held up a finger. ] Before you try to say that it could have been motivated by an ... event in this place, the Admin wouldn't have cared if that was the case, would she?
Didn't think so. So that means they committed violence against you for something you said or did, vs a monster just being a monster.
Having my face practically eaten off was more excruciating.
[Just saying. He can't really argue that Royce and Alfie coupled with the Lavender's Blue song kicking up in his head while he'd been down and helpless had been more lasting in terms of the terror.]
[ There was a contemplative moment, before Will gave a small nod. He wasn't going to push further, though he did keep the door open; in a manner of speaking. ]
The events that kept Hannibal from eating my brain, lead to a situation were a plastic surgeon was going to remove my face, to transplant it onto the man who fed his face to my dogs.
Cordell's plan did not include anesthesia, or my being dead in any way at the time.
I still remember the first cut and tug of the scalpel.
[Okay, that's pretty gross. Less because it's a face transplant and more because House has seen the partial face transplant they did last year in France and while it had been impressive, it hadn't been that impressive. Maybe it's better in Will's time.]
Is there a particular reason he did that to you and not Lecter? Just... torturing Lecter by making him see your pretty face on someone else?
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It's snake oil. Don't buy it. You might not be able to get it off again.
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I'M STILL GETTING IN THE DAMN SUIT! ]
Fair. [ Will said after a moment. ] But if I go bonkers ...
If I go more bonkers than usual, I'm counting on you to kill me.
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You do realize I couldn't even kill the Joker when I had the chance?
[And his feelings about you are a lot less conflicted, Will.]
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Pretty please with a cherry on top?
[ He didn't genuinely expect House to kill him. House would bite, like a cornered rat, he'd attack but the goal was escape not to kill.
In fact he didn't think House had it in him to kill. Even a mercy kill was questionable, not because House would want a person to suffer (beyond reason) but rather because the diagnostician wouldn't accept that there was a puzzle he couldn't solve. ]
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Well since you said 'pretty please.'
I'm pretty sure your boyfriend would pitch a fit if I were the one to murder you. He doesn't even want me biting you. Sorry about that threesome idea.
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Sex isn't the same thing as biting, or murdering. It's less ... intimate in Hannibal's minds. Did he say 'no' threesome?
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And there is a difference between the victims of the Ripper and Hannibal's tributes. [ For lack of a better word.
Will set his tablet aside, and adopted his usual pose of knees bent, arms resting across them. ]
The Ripper chooses his victims from a pool of individuals he finds rude. People who are, in his eyes, no better than pigs due to their behavior and he treats them accordingly. Sometimes it will take him months, even years to circle back on someone he marked at the time of their transgression. It was part of what made him so difficult to investigate.
Anyway those victims, Hannibal would throw these elaborate dinner parties that were known for attracting the top of Maryland, D.C. and Virginia high society. People tripped over themselves for an invitation. Lavish affairs, and the menu was created and prepared by Hannibal.
[ He won't say it, but rather waits to let House connect the dots. ]
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Anyone ever tell him there are better ways to show off?
[He should probably be more horrified, but he knows Hannibal is a cannibal and a complete asshole. There's a part of the doctor that can see the visceral satisfaction and amusement in conning a bunch of rubes into doing something they'd profess to never do. And have them not only champing at the bit to do it, but raving afterward. It is masterful manipulation, and House would tip his hat to anyone who could pull something like that off.]
So, basically if he disappears and comes back with extra meat, make sure I check that it's not human before eating it?
What about the 'tributes'? I'm assuming he was planning on you for one of those.
[House just kind of assumes he'll eventually be in the former category. Not just the biting Will, but he's been rude to Hannibal before this.]
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[ At the second question and the sentence after it, Will's lips twitched upwards. ]
'Was'? [ He shook his head. ] He already tried once, though in that instance it was a combination of consuming me and torturing Jack at the same time. [ Will pointed to the scar at his forehead. ]
He has an 'inconvenient' compassion for me. [ Will continued. ] And he is in love with me, but that doesn't mean he won't reach the point where his desire to consume me will overwhelm his desire to have me by his side.
I suspect it's hard to see, but in his eyes there would be a pentultimate beauty in such an act. It would be the pinnacle of intimacy for him.
[ Glancing at House, Will smiled an expression that was both serene but also melancholy. ]
Just because the tiger comes to your hand, chuffs softly at you, rubs his head against you in affection and will lay in your lap with love in his eyes, doesn't mean he stops being a tiger. Only an arrogant fool would believe that those predatory instincts won't always lay just beneath the surface and it is a question of when, not if, they will be triggered.
cw: reference to bestiality
[Just saying, Will.]
Unless you've got something you wanna tell me about your kinks, Graham Cracker.
[House runs a hand through his hair--it's really getting too long--and tries to look at it from Hannibal's perspective. It's not too hard once he lets himself consider it.]
You'd become a part of him when he eats you. And he'll have something from you that no one else would. No one else ever will have. I mean, except here. Where you might come back to life. Would that cheapen it?
cw: reference to bestiality
[ He was fishing, just a bit with that last question. There had been some weird exchanges, particularly the last time they had been in the same location with Rhys, but Will was curious about whether or not there was fire in the smoke. Really, neither of them has a position to toss around stones. Truth was, a threesome is probably one of the tamer ideas in their sex lives.
But this was part of why Will liked House's company. The doctor didn't get disgusted, or judgey (at least on the outside) about the horrors in Will's mind and his reality. He didn't have the same sort of door Will and Hannibal possessed but House appeared capable of observing through the windows and now being scared away.
Will nodded at the diagnosis and also suspected that it would clue House in on why Hannibal had reacted negatively to the teeth, yet open minded on the subject of the threesome. ]
I don't know. [ Will answered the question honestly. ] I don't think he knows. Hannibal is incredibly adaptable, it's part of why he's such a successful survivor. He might be taken aback at first, feel frustration at outside forces imposing change on his design.
But I suspect he'd be quick to find value in the way life and death are on hold here.
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Kinda jacks with the keeping it under the radar model unless he's real good at murdering without people actually seeing him do it. Or it's you or me.
[Because he knows neither of them are going to rat the guy out.]
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He's very good at pulling off what would seem impossible, don't ever believe there is something he can't do, just because it doesn't seem feasible.
[ Will stretched his legs out, purposefully adopting a less defensive posture as he continued. ]
There is a woman, a friend of mine who was also a psychiatrist and a contemporary of Hannibal's, was his student at one time. Her name is Alana Bloom and I had something of a small flame for her.
She turned me down, was worried that I was too broken.
Anyway, when I was in Baltimore Hospital for the Criminally Insane and I had sent someone to kill Hannibal, Hannibal retaliated by seducing Alana. He also seduced her on the same night that he went and grabbed a man named Abel Gideon, a serial killer who had claimed to be the Ripper; which annoyed Hannibal.
During this period, Jack had been investigating some of my asertations that Hannibal was the Ripper, so Hannibal was under some scrutiny. By sleeping with Alana, he took a swipe at me, and simultaneously created an alibi for himself. Because she slept through his leaving after they had sex, woke up to him back in bed. Her account was that he had been with her the entire night.
[ Will lifted his hands and made a motion of multiple levels. ]
He does love to multi-task.
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The doctor's brows jump up, impressed. He won't say it to Hannibal, but he can appreciate the man's skill privately.]
He drug her to keep her under?
[Okay. That's probably not what a normal person should ask, but it's what he's curious about. Just how sneaky is Hannibal? And did he have to cheat a little?]
cw: POST COITAL drug reference
[ Will remembered reading that line in Alana's alibi for Hannibal and smacking himself in the face with the file. In other words, incredibly sneaky.
Will would argue that Hannibal was that good in bed to knock a partner out for the count, but the psychiatrist wasn't one to let ego get in the way of thorough planning. ]
cw: POST COITAL drug reference; codependent relationship issues
[Which... probably isn't actually good when it comes to serial killers, but whatever. House isn't Will's mom. The guy can make whatever inadvisable romantic choices he wants. And unlike most people, at least Will has a very intimate and in-depth knowledge of this lover's most significant flaws.
It's incredibly unhealthy, but House knows most people would characterize his relationship with Wilson like that from the other side. Even just friendship. There's really no reason Wilson should still be his friend without massive codependency issues.]
Are you gonna ask his opinion about the Beacon, too?
cw: codependent relationship issues
Conjoined, as completely codependent as one could get. Which was part of why Will could see hints of the codependency between House and Wilson, and yet see where Wilson got as much from it as House.
Though from the outside it would always look as if House were sole beneficiary. ]
I'm going to ask him about his intentions. He can be just as curious as you are about poking something to see what it does, but I don't think he's going to be too fond of the idea of making himself more traceable.
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I really wasn't exaggerating when I told Squalo you'd been through worse.
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I tell you I had a sucker fish monster attach itself to my face, and you think the ear is worse?
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The sucker fish monster was merely acting to its nature. I expect it was traumatic, but this entire place is traumatic in one way or another and it is equally and unconditionally traumatic to each and every one of us.
[ Lowering his hand, he replaced his glasses. They fell down to the tip of his nose. ]
The attack on your ear by another member of our merry band carries a different psychological weight. [ He held up a finger. ] Before you try to say that it could have been motivated by an ... event in this place, the Admin wouldn't have cared if that was the case, would she?
Didn't think so. So that means they committed violence against you for something you said or did, vs a monster just being a monster.
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Having my face practically eaten off was more excruciating.
[Just saying. He can't really argue that Royce and Alfie coupled with the Lavender's Blue song kicking up in his head while he'd been down and helpless had been more lasting in terms of the terror.]
cw: discussion of torture
The events that kept Hannibal from eating my brain, lead to a situation were a plastic surgeon was going to remove my face, to transplant it onto the man who fed his face to my dogs.
Cordell's plan did not include anesthesia, or my being dead in any way at the time.
I still remember the first cut and tug of the scalpel.
cw: discussion of torture
Is there a particular reason he did that to you and not Lecter? Just... torturing Lecter by making him see your pretty face on someone else?
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